Thursday, May 19, 2005

History Lessons

The continuing debate between Jon Wiener and Diane Ravitch at Slate regarding how to teach history is quite interesting.

One specific thing that struck me the other day, however, was
this point from Ravitch, rebutting Wiener's claim that it is most important to teach "the conflicts":

If you don't know the central events and players—the central narrative—it is
difficult to understand the views and behaviors that diverge from the central
narrative. How can you teach "multiple perspectives" when students don't know
what happened in the first instance?

I found this interesting most of all because I made almost the exact point in an intro-level history class at UC Santa Cruz. The professor had structured the class as a series of debates about American history, and made sure to focus on the perspectives of minorities, women, dissidents, etc. But I found that what happened was that the students who already knew the history participated in the discussions, while the students who didn't already know the history were lost, because the professor spent almost zero time on the basic narrative.

Now, in fairness to Professor Yang-Murray, these were students who had, like all California students, already taken American history in 5th, 8th, and 11th grades. They should have known the basic narrative well enough to move deeper into the material. So the failure was really at the elementary and secondary level, which I think is the point Ravitch was trying to get across. You can't expect sophisticated historical analysis from students who had the basketball coach as their history teacher in high school.

3 comments:

Anonymous said...

Actually, at my high school, one of the AP Euro teachers (and apparently a very good one) was also the coach of the back-to-back state champion girls basketball team. But I assume that's the exception more than the rule.

I didn't really get into history until I had good history-only teachers in High School, the general teachers in elementry school didn't do much for me. So you might be on to something.

On an unrelated note, I see you added me (and Jeff, for some reason) to your links. So I suppose you actually like me and I should just get over my stupid complex that you don't?

Jake said...

*sigh* Yes Adam, believe it or not, I don't hate you.

Anyway, to clarify - obviously there are plenty of people who are excellent teachers and coaches, but more often, I think they give the coaches a teaching job just so they can get two employees for the price of one.

I, meanwhile, was lucky in that my 4th-5th grade teacher, Mr. (Vroom-Vroom) Ferrari was a very good and enthusiastic history teacher. That, more than my high school teachers, led to my interest in history.

Anonymous said...

Honestly, I'm much better than I used to be, I used to think EVERYBODY hated me. Now I just think you do. I suppose I'll believe you, but I'll be watching for you to turn against me!

And of course I was joking with the basketball coach thing, because of course you're right. My HS did stuff like that too, but when they did (and the teacher wasn't really qualified) they had them teach things like Health, Deivers Ed, or the stupid kids, so I wasn't affected much.

On a somewhat related note, my freshman year Spanish teacher was also the cheerleading coach, and she was much better than the Spanish teacher I had Sophmore and Junior year (which is why I can't speak Spanish very well). She was also amazingly cute and is the first teacher I can recall having a crush on. And then she had to go and get married! What's up with that?

God, I need a new job so I stop annoying people with pointless replies like this.